• HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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    Not vegan, but hate the idea that they’re made fun of for trying to spread awareness. I’m not including the militant vegans here. They do more damage than they fix.

    I’m sure some people do it from a high horse but vegans are far from the only type of people that do that. And the message is absolutely important, besides the cruelty part, eating animals is a huge part of the climate change problem.

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    I used to own an ice cream shop, and we had vegan ice cream, and a pretty good following for it. I got so I could recognize them as they were walking from their car.

    One quiet day, I saw this older couple start getting out of their car, and I said to my assistant “They’re vegan.” She asked how I knew, and I said “Just look at them, they’re obviously vegan.” She said “But they’re so old.” “You’ll see,” I said.

    They walked in, and the first thing the old guy said was “We hear you have vegan ice cream, we’re vegans!” and I could sense my assistant’s head swivel to look at me in my peripheral vision.

    As I made his ice cream, he went on to tell me how his wife makes vegan steaks so good, I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Yes, I could.

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    There is no way they were the first vegans in 2016. There have been 100+ ascents per year for decades, should have been around 6000 in total as of 2016.

    Considering the mountain is in a part of the world where significant parts of the population are de-facto vegans without identifying as such, I highly doubt that no one among the 6k people before them was living on a plant based diet

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    bro vegans are so dumb they’re depriving themselves of key nutrients and become weak and constantly tired.

    that’s wrong, let me prove it to you by climbing the fucking everest

    bro vegans are so annoying and why won’t they shut the fuck up about it

    the carnist intellectuals have come out in force I see

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      I think her dying trying is an important part of the point here.

      I don’t agree with it. I’m sure there’s a more nuanced cause of death, but that’s between step 2 and 3.

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        Right I went with the most charitable reading.

        lol stupid vegan dies because we were right about veganism causing malnutrition get owned

        is of course the interpretation that seems the most obvious

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      Vegans call themselves vegans and they get to call others “carnists”? I’ve been hearing them calling others “meateaters” too. It’s so reductive of people who don’t agree with their ideas.

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          I don’t go over my day calling people names. It’s not hard for me to call them as they want them to be called, and if I don’t know that, they are just people like me.

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            another user said it’s like how christians call non-believers sinners. that makes sense to me.

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            Carnist is a description of someone who has a meat-inclusive diet, other descriptions of people by what they can or cannot eat are e.g. vegan, lactose intolerant, celiac… It’s not a “name” you call someone, it’s a description of someone using a certain aspect of them relevant to the discussion.

            A “name”, as in, something used to insult would be e.g. corpsemuncher, bloodmouth, cheesebreth &c.

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              So, some nonvegan people?

              Edit: Also, that wasn’t the point. Vegans call themselves vegans, nobody is asking them to call others by any name, proper or improper, in vegans’ point of view.

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                The point behind not using “nonvegan” is that it frames carnists as "the normal"s and the “vegans” as the one who have “something special” going on. This is true with celiac and nonceliac, lactose intolerant and not lactose intolerant. But we argue that veganism, i.e. not killing if unnecessary, is the normal thing to do. That the only reason it doesn’t seem that way is because it got normalized through repetition and how widespread it is.

                Nobody is asking to stop the torture of dairy cows &c. other than vegans either so I don’t understand why you think the point in your edit matters.The point in demonstrating for societal change is precisely doing stuff others aren’t asking for.

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                  I guess a vegan would see the point in that. Vegans are normal in my book, as in they are people. If they didn’t call themselves vegans, I wouldn’t call them any particular way as a noun. If I needed to describe them, I’d say, “they are people who only eat vegetables”.

                  I get it, though, it’s a discourse battle derived from their moral views and expected ethics. It’s just they don’t come across as very approachable.

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          Most people are apathetic, and a chunk of those are due to ignorance. Calling them carnists likely isn’t helping the cause at all.

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        I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here, you don’t want me to take this “so serious” everyone here is just pretending to be a stereotypical carnist? I’m not surprised at all, why would I be, it’s like this every time a vegan is mentioned.

          • Huh? What vegan is causing everyone here to act like a stereotype? The one who climbed everest, or one of the vegans who started commenting after all these carnists had made all the canon jokes already

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    No matter my diet, I’m not so sure I’d survive that either. Anyone who’s been up there and found it easy can have a laugh though

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    Vegans getting offended at a shitpost? Color me surprised, that doesn’t happen on every single post like this.

    Guess I don’t need to check if they sky is still blue.

    Seriously, just cuz y’all are doing more of the right thing doesn’t mean a joke isn’t funny. Learn to take a metaphorical punch and clap back rather than immediately going towards crying about shitposts.

    • I have never had a babyeater not immediately start crying about “the nasty vegans who will never convert anyone with this kind of language 😭😭😭” when there was a clapback. You lot act like we can’t take shitposting but you just rehash the same 3 jokes or so and whine about obnoxious, judgemental vegans the moment the teenciest bit of fire returned. Must be all that cowmom milk that got you acting like babies 🤷

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    If this is the same story I’m thinking of, she and her partner wanted to be the first vegans to climb to the top, to show the world that vegans can do it. Coincidentally, another vegan actually did it like 1-2 days before their attempt.

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      Ah, I sincerely hope someone told her during her last dying breaths that she wasn’t the first vegan to climb Mount-Whatever and therefore she didn’t actually need to do it.

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        Thank you, and the ‘why’ reply makes it more special

        Stop using acronyms… at least establish the acronym first. If your comment is too short to establish the acronym, don’t bother using it.

        IT’S CC

        (common courtesy)

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      I have repurposed it for Trump supporters, who ABSOLUTELY NEVER shut the fuck up about being Trump supporters and also are a genuine menace to others where vegans really are not.