OOTL, what does this mean? I’ve seen it referenced a couple times.

FWIW you can get decently powerful (but narrow frequency, most just affect cell bands or 802.11) jammers off Aliexpress for like $300. Thats where the cartels get theirs, at least. The FCC will find you the minute you turn one on though, and holy shit they don’t fuck around, so I really don’t recommend trying it.

It is at this point trivially easy to locate strong signals in crowds - iirc the Olympics was one of the pioneers of the technology to prevent illegal broadcasts, and the equipment is fairly cheap and very easily accessible for any interested party that wants it. Foxhunter fourms even have many, many plans to build your own versions of the hardware if you want.

And that’s setting aside that the strength of a portable jammer is very limited, military radios like the US police use have pretty neat anti-jamming features (hardened FHSS is brutal, just look at Ukraine/russian signal warfare for how hard it is to mitigate) and you’d be absolutely screwing over any coordination attempts by other protesters using cell or radio by trying this.

You’ll get caught, and you’ll do a great deal more harm than good if you use these in a protest. Outside that context they could be useful, but by turning one on you gotta remember you’re ensuring that you can’t get any help, either.

“Yeah no totally” is a similar one

The Dalai Lama, now 90, is not accused of any wrongdoing. In a new statement, his office denied that he had ever met Epstein.

So… Hmm. Seems like Epstein & cronies just really wanted to meet him, and the headline is clickbait?

I didn’t mean to stress you out that bad, but I wasn’t “going on the attack” like you characterize me as.

Yes, you did - you regret it now that you realize you were genuinely hurting someone, but you absolutely intended to hurt me and you 100% went on the attack from the outset.

I don’t “need” an apology (which that wasn’t), nor do I want one from you, nor would I accept it if you’d offered one. I just want you to not do this to someone else in the future. I’m not expecting an apology from other commenters in this thread, either - that’s stupid, they didn’t do anything wrong, they misinterpreted an ambiguous comment. I got dogpiled for an unclear statement, it happens all the time on here, that’s fine, it truly doesn’t bother me, I’m actually quite good at navigating society as an autistic person. This interaction wasn’t the fault of any other person here but you, and I’m deeply saddened that you’re trying to make that the narrative now.

I had hoped you might be better than that.

Your entire comment is talking down to me like I’ve got no idea what just happened, despite me explaining your behavior to you, encompassing pretty much everything you just laid out in your comment, over the preceding several hours. I apparently knew exactly what you were doing long before you did, and told you what you were doing, and you ignored me because:

You thought someone was doing something wrong, and because of that it justified your being unbelievably horrible to someone else.

I get it, I really do - it’s hard to realize we’ve done something that has no good justification, that’s why you’re trying to couch this as you have defended the OP, why you’re latching onto my being autistic so you can altruistically explain basic concepts to me (again, I have already explained all of this repeatedly to you, you just ignored it because I was wrong on the internet and that meant it was morally justifiable to do so), why you’ve spent the last several comments attempting to force me to accept some of the blame so you can excuse some of your behavior, and why you’re avoiding so hard actually apologizing for being mean to me.

That isn’t you taking responsibility, and while I haven’t at any point denied my own responsibility for making an unclear comment initially - hence why I explained myself repeatedly (to you especially, which you chose to ignore) - you will only accept your own responsibility with a long series of exceptions and ways to morally weasel out of it.

You don’t think you did anything wrong, and if I was the kind of person that threw out terms like “narcissist” I might be doing that right now - but I don’t think you are one. I think you just saw an opportunity to be cruel to someone and get away with it. I think you enjoyed yourself. And I think you’re going to do this to someone else in the future, because you’re not able to accept what you’ve done. And for that reason, to make sure I’m not the next person you do this to, and to preserve what’s left of my peace of mind, you’re going to be the first person I’ve ever blocked on lemmy. Congrats. Have fun getting the last word in.

I know it’s dramatic when people say that, but I really hope you understand that you’ve just been too horrible for me to feel comfortable on lemmy with you here - I’ve already deleted all my previous OC to make sure you can’t see it and use it against me, because you are the kind of person who could justify behavior like that to themselves. You just spent hours proving that.

I hope next time you do this to someone like me, the very worst that happens is they throw up. But maybe, when someone spends hours trying to defend themselves against your repeated, baseless, fucking cruel bullshit, you consider they might be telling the truth when they say you’ve just misunderstood them.

And now unlike you, I really am done with this.

“Guess Who”, supportive trans ally edition! It’s wellmeaning but god it can be frustrating. Like please just tell me so I don’t guess wrong and accidentally deadname them to their face.

Yes I’m on the spectrum, and I’m sorry but no:

Your accusations have been stressful enough I threw up. You’ve done nothing but spend hours bullying, insulting and in your words tormenting me over an assumption you made I can prove was wrong. You have not taken back what you said, the comments where you accuse me of said heinous shit, where you gaslight me, where you insult me; they’re all still right there. You’ve haven’t even apologized for doing this to me.

I explained my position to a large number of people, many of whom insulted me on the basis of a misinterpretation, which is a reasonable thing to do when one is being insulted and misinterpreted. You thought someone was doing something wrong, and because of that it justified your being unbelievably horrible to someone else. At any point you could have stopped and considered what I was saying with a shred of decency, but you didn’t.

I was literally a victim - at your hands, and of your reflexive cruelty. You don’t get to walk away from this accusing me of a victim complex and feeling like you didn’t do anything wrong, that’s victim blaming. And now you’ve buried your non-apology 27 comments deep where nobody will see it, so you don’t have to admit that you did an incredibly shitty thing.

(and as a final note, who in the hell thinks that the person posting a meme is the person that created the meme? Lemmy barely has OC, I should know, and it’s fucking awful you’re trying to spin this as you defending OP to justify how horrible you’ve been to me)

But I haven’t seen you say anywhere that you’ve learned something and changed your opinion, and now recognize the secular usage if tarot.

That’s because I haven’t changed my opinion - I never thought tarot was a singularly religious act in the first place which I made clear at least an hour before you joined in to accuse me of doing exactly that : https://lemmy.world/comment/22028428 . I’ve never made any claim even presenting it like that besides describing Tarot as religious - which is not wrong, many people do consider Tarot as an aspect of their religion, and being this is an occult community it’s not unfair for me to have chosen to primarily characterize it as such. And setting that aside, the content of my initial message would not have changed had I said:

Maybe… you should say that to your friend, instead of using your shared religious secular beliefs that convince them to stay in a shitty relationship…?

This is why I’ve repeatedly said you’ve misunderstood me - I have never claimed that I was unaware of a secular use of Tarot, nor have I attacked tarot, nor have I asserted that tarot is singularly religious. I do not know how you arrived at that conclusion, even. I asked for someone’s opinion on why they don’t consider it religious, and I sincerely wanted to know what they thought. What I got was:

Jungian archetypes and shadow work reflection prompts.

Which isn’t an explanation about why they don’t consider it a religious act, it’s a set of concepts that are present in a whole host of things. I then said I was confused, because I was, since they didn’t even claim that was why they don’t consider Tarot religious, they just asserted it and then told me I was taking it too seriously. And you’ve done nothing but attack me for that confusion, now even saying that was me “doubling down on tarot as a religious/spiritual practice” which, no, it wasn’t.

You jumped in with your own assumptions about what I was saying and started attacking me. And yes, you have openly been gaslighting me: Again, I never said I was done with this conversation, I never attacked Tarot, I was never accused by anyone else of attacking other people using DARVO techniques (or otherwise?), your sources do not show that happening and I’ve never claimed that Tarot is a solely religious idea. Those are all things you’ve asserted which are false, and which fit into any of the common definitions of gaslighting.

Not quite:

Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.

In this case I’ve only asked you for evidence of one claim once, and then referred back to you not providing it. I’m not after more evidence, and I’m not attempting to badger you into giving me evidence, I’m just trying to get you to stop gaslighting me. Although I’ll happily concede that probably wasn’t you trying to gaslight me just now since sealioning is kinda a weird one (and you’re unfamiliar with it). My bad there.

Sigh. That’s not how you use that, but I’ll point out you’re trying to gaslight me yet again with it by implying that I was somehow sealioning in that comment or this thread.

You started the accusations of narcissim, including inventing that other people were accusing me of attacking them by engaging in DARVO-like behavior then attempting to gaslight me about it. When you weighed in on this conversation it was to mock me for expressing confusion - that was a discussion not an argument, if a rather rude one - in a conversation where I had sincerely asked for someone else’s perspective and was given a perfunctory lack of explanation. Elsewhere in this thread are very minor arguments, sure - all of them based on a misunderstanding, or (after you joined) one person posting a rude meme.

You have refused to engage with what I’ve said from the beginning, and you’ve devolved to even trying to gaslight me about being the one who said they were done with this conversation - which, I note, you continue not to be done with.

And again you ignore that you started this and attempt to turn it around on me.

Appealing the PCN after she was fined in August, Bread – who, on social media, hides her real identity behind a slice of bread – highlighted how a “lack of clear, visible signage” at the time she parked, combined with “long-standing prior practice” meant it was “reasonable to assume that parking remained permitted”.

well I’m sold, what a story hook.

“Save the cat” did so much damage to cinema, it’s just staggering. The books are good but god, people treat them like MadLibs and it’s ruined so many otherwise promising ideas.

Thank you! That’s roughly what I thought, I appreciate the explanation. I wonder what the rate of spiritual vs. “secular” use of tarot is, I certainly see it treated with a degree of sincerity far more often than not, but there’s a large number of more abstractly spititual people in my social cricles and I assume that’s not the norm.

It seems really likely this was just a typo on the form - the date and day are autofilled as part of the template on all similar forms I have worked with. It seems like a stretch to think the mook writing press releases would have been clued in that they were about to murder a guy, and the actual murderers wouldn’t have been the one publishing the press release anyways.

Like they for sure killed him, but I just doubt this is evidence of the conspiracy.

Asking for evidence when you’re accused of something incredibly heinous isn’t sealioning, especially when they claim it’s obvious - it’s basic defensiveness. I’m asking them to back up their accusations, and they’ve responded with a list of comments that have nothing to do with their accusations. They’re aggressively gaslighting me, not just about that, and although you were hostile to me initially (and I sincerely do not know why, I appreciated your comment but was genuinely confused by it and if I offended I do apologize) I am begging you to look at what they’re doing.

Stop. That isn’t evidence. None of those are accusing me of attacking someone while engaging in DARVO-like behavior, which is the claim you made. I haven’t really made a claim for them to say is wrong other than that the person in the meme should be more direct with their friend, a claim you have never engaged with. That I have been misinterpreted about the spirituality of tarot is the bulk of my explanations elsewhere - something you again choose to ignore. You’re again blatantly trying to gaslight me.

When confronted with evidence, the perpetrator then attacks the person that they had harmed, or are still harming.

You’re literally doing DARVO while you do this. You have never attempted to engage with me on this, nor my criticism of your behavior in my previous replies here, you’ve simply chosen to attack, attempt to gaslight and accuse me of being the aggressor.

Look at your comments. I accused you of being a jerk and attacking me, and you immediately:

Finally, the perpetrator claims that they were or are actually the victim in the situation, thus reversing the positions of victim and offender.

It’s almost beat for beat.

I’m sorry, can you provide a single example of someone else doing that?

I made a specific request for you to support your claim, which you didn’t do. There are no other accusations in this thread about me attacking them, DARVO or not, for me or anyone else to clearly see - you’re lying, and you’re once again attempting to gaslight me about that fact.

Also I’ve never said I was done with this conversation, I said I welcome you being done with it. You were the one that was apparently wrong, but you’re trying to tell me that was actually me, being incorrect. That’s gaslighting, dude. Again.

You’re explicitly engaging in the behavior you’re accusing me of, and refuse to engage with me when I explain how you’ve misunderstood me, choosing instead to repeatedly attack my character and lie to me instead of engage in good faith. It’s disgusting you’re still trying this.