Reminds me of an all time classic Onion article.
2015? lol… USA has been a trash empire since a few enslavers made it up.
Yes, but have you considered how bad it is that respectable white people are now affected by its brutality? Have some empathy for Christ’s sake. 😤
Seriously though, it is incredibly frustrating to see discourses like these when racialized and indigenous people in the US metropole have criticised the fundamentally violent nature of the United States before it was even imagined. The smugness of it all y’know?
You’d think after Kent State, Blair Mountain, The Tulsa Massacre, Trail of Tears, etc. white people would have realized “wait a minute, this isn’t right.” But seems this land is full of neo-liberal moderate white people who have to be targeted to give a damn themselves.
They did. People, white people included, have fought colonialism since it started. Some of the earliest documentation of protests against slavery and genocide in the Caribbean was written by Spanish settlers in the 1510s. When we talk about “white people” we are recognizing that whiteness is more about privilege than it is actual settlers who, while privileged by appearing white in the maintenance of whiteness as a naturally privileged category, can also have that privileged revoked if they become too much of a threat to hegemony. People make decisions based on their material interests, so a privileged class that is also racialized can be effectively mobilized to the disposal of the imperial state as their material security is assured or at the very least benefited by doing so. What we’re seeing is people whose familial memory extends generations into that privilege realize for the first time that whiteness is in fact not a real thing that can protect you, and they think that’s a particularly enlightened realization because many of them are also liberals who wish to appropriate ideas of anti-fascism and decolonialism to their benefit as they have effectively done in the past. They aren’t mad about the violence, they’re correctly identifying that they were promised protection from it by birthright.
Make no mistake, when they say that they were the first to realize the US empire was evil, they are asserting that they own the ability to criticize that empire and direct actions in response to that criticism. It’s how they coopt black-, queer-, indigenous-, and disability-liberation movements all the time.
Yeah but the other option was a woman so I sat at home.
I knew this was all the Demmicratz fault
Please remember this happened when folks get all “AOC is the only person who can win.” No she’s got a built in loss, two X chromosomes. In a decade maybe, but right now boomers still have too much control and even boomer women don’t want a woman president. They’ve done polling on it and it’s very clear, they don’t think a woman has the temperament to lead. We can think it’s silly but we should not ignore it.
Yep cue the downvotes ignoring it. Read this carefully and explain to me why we should even consider running a woman right now. But you won’t, you’re in a bubble where you think everyone believes what you do.
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote
*in the US.
Many, many other countries vote women into the top seat. Even boomers.
Anybody with the slightest Critical Thinking Skills knew how bad this would get, way back in 2015.
I knew who this hump was back in the 80s, and could have told you what a disaster he’d be as president back then, and would have been 75% correct, with only a 25% underestimation of how bad it would actually be.
Overall 40 percent of Americans didn’t even read a single book last year. Doesn’t bode well for critical thinking if we can’t even read.
Gen Z Arriving at College Unable to Read
“It’s not even an inability to critically think. It’s an inability to read sentences.”
Funny that the one thing all three scenarios have in common is: “misled people that vote”. I wanted to write “dumb and ignorant people voting” but I wanted to be generous
The big part is also well-meaning people not voting. There are more of those well-meaning people by volume, and they could’ve easily prevented all that, but they for one reason or another decided not to do that
The fucking Vlad supporters are winning and the short sighted dumbasses, in the UK and USA, fell for it.
I owe this women an apology. She was completely right and reacting appropriately.
There was another woman I think about sometimes who was very upset about maga hats and I thought she was overreacting. I also owe that woman an apology
A lot of people owe that poor woman an apology.
Not me, I very much felt the same way as she did. And I knew very well what the 2nd term would look like and so I was very sad when he did not get shot that one time. “Oh, how can you say that? He’s not that bad.” Blind fools the lot of you. It was always so very obvious if you had just cared to look.
The hate she gets is wild. I don’t always find her comics funny, but the absolute vitriol she gets is wild over on Reddit.
… I don’t think the person fizz is talking about is Pizzacake. if you look at the source view on his post, it’s the woman screaming during trump’s first inauguration/announcement of election results
Oh, I don’t see anything but text in Fizz’ post and don’t know what source view means.
clicking the button shown what they typed out to get what their post is; this way you can learn markup to make similar formatting.
sometimes images don’t load, so you can use the same tool to get the URL of the image they are sharing
Ah that’s hidden in a menu on piefed and doesn’t seem visible at all on Boost. Thanks!
Who is this woman? I’m not familiar with the reference.
Someone who was filmed screaming and crying during the announcement (maybe inauguration, can’t remember which now) of the 45th president of the US
Jessica Starr. It was Jan 20, 2017 just as he was sworn in. His terrible followers sometimes subtitled this image “autistic screeching”.
Oh ok. Yeah that was the correct reaction.
You know what you see here? Acceptance of election results. You know, what many trumpers lack.
Wait was that actually pizzacake or is this someone else?
I dont think so. Its just an unknown person who got dragged through the mud but conservative media.
The left will never get the credit for being right all along.
The best the Dems can do is demand their vote then if they win say they didn’t need it but if they lose it’s all the left’s fault.
That’s okay. I don’t want credit. I want things to get better. I want to make things get better.
I had someone here on lemmy literally tell me that history doesn’t matter and we shouldn’t pay attention to it. The ignorance was fucking astounding.
Lemmy is very STEM-brained, maybe even more than Reddit
My favorite is when you point out someone outside the USA lives in a country where they shouldn’t be throwing stones in their glass house continue to do so.
Years ago someone told me on reddit that antivirus protections on personal PCs aren’t necessary and a waste of processing power.
Can’t really reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.
Were they arguing that extra antivirus wasn’t necessary? Cause windows built in has been better than alternatives for years now (well, idk about 11, but 7, 8, and 10 all had good antivirus).
When I was a strapping young lad, I would rather just reinstall the system in case of viruses than living with the antivirus software
It’s been long enough I don’t think I could faithfully remember the details of their argument. I think they were insisting that no AV was needed at all though, not that Windows’ built in protections are sufficient, which has indeed been true for a while.
Unfortunately a lot of AV “solutions” on Windows are proprietary which makes it a no for me.
Windows Defender has been sufficient for most users for a while. Which is just a default part of the OS unless you go out of your way to remove it.
Are there any open source av programs, and any that don’t cost money?
Just use Linux and don’t be an idiot on the Internet
I want to switch to linux for sure, both in phone and computer. Too late on the idiot part. Just joking though I’ve not said anything prosecutable.
yeah but like, I saw that—if that is the same person—she dared to make some comics about very obvious social issues rendered with very competent art and comedy and also dared to be a woman doing such activities and as a person of man I find that objectionable that a woman so me mad. but like just because i had to see it because me mad at her because she is.
No people generally don’t like her because she can be a big cunt and just attacks people wildly for having criticism. Some of the dm logs that have been released are wild
I think her comics are okay, people do overblow that aspect of it for sure
I remember Lemmy having a matter boner for her last year cause of some law suit.
Nah, she got hate because she takes criticism very badly, exacerbated by the r/comics mods. That, and also the comics just aren’t very funny.
I think some of the early ones are pretty funny. But she has become largely lackluster as she gained fame.
Matter Boner? Law Suit? I don’t think I’ve ever had a boner from a lawsuit to be perfectly honest with you.
Bruh if your boner isn’t matter, then what’s the point in all this?
but like doesn’t it suck that she dares to be a woman making content as a woman like that make ne mad as me man like how dARE?
I really don’t have an opinion on that. I liked her early stuff, but don’t really care for her contemporary work. That said, let people do what they want? One of my favorite quotes goes something like “if you ain’t hurting anyone, I’m here to help or get out of the way.”
As an autistic person who has a great skill of finding similarities between two things, you can see a lot of parallels between our modern world and 1940s Germany.
I’d say we’re still at the 1930s Germany stage, considering World War 3 hasn’t started yet.
No. It’s just not the war you think. The war on poor people is going well.
The appeasement of Putin has been going on since 2014
But the appeasement of Hitler still happened in the 1930s.
Unfortunately there are plenty more fascist regimes than Germany’s to choose from as examples. Many didn’t start a world war, and therefore lasted much, much longer than the Nazis did.
If I’m being honest, the first term was quite underwhelming compared to how bad it could be (as 2025+ has proved).
No, the first term was pretty damn bad, it was a version 1.0 for sure but it was BAD.
Did you forget all the COVID anti-mask and anti-distancing insanity? The still-not-fully-understood blatant theft and corruption around the PPP “loan” program that pilfered so much money it inflated the US Dollar at unprecedented rates? The intentional separation of children from parents by force?
The PPP was just part of the bailouts as well. They did direct cash infusions into the richest companies, and the Fed did a lot to make sure the rich didn’t lose any money, and in effect shoveled trillions of dollars to the richest.
The PPP was forgiven to big corporations that got the money then fired workers anyway, while small employers that kept people on after getting the money, as was the point of the program ostensibly, were forced to pay it back later.
The Democrats are fucking worthless I’m afraid I’ve to throw in there. Can’t even make hay out of this, or change an unjust system, when they are hated and have to win.
Were we talking about Democrats? Or did you just need to bring them up because you can’t abide a discussion that doesn’t criticize them as well?
You can’t escape it, if you give the establishment a pass and allow them to stay in control of the party we lose. Unless you are pretending to be one of us and helping fascists to overthrow the Republic in all but name in favor of putting the worst people in permanent control of the country, you need to face that fact.
I think being in a sane state kind of mitigated that COVID issue for me, but I agree on the PPP loan theft (immigration stuff was always bad, although I guess not children in cages bad). My point was, compared to this term, he was actually held back a bit.
Democrats can’t say shit about Trump’s covid response after fully adopting the playbook themselves once they were in power
If anything they were worse because they turned it into a bipartisan consensus on reality and made all the ‘normal’ people take their masks off.
If the public isn’t on board with something, it’ll cost the ruling party dearly. This wasn’t like 1918 where the public wanted to help each other by limiting the spread of the disease. This was rugged individualism, “you can’t tell me what to do.” Dems were honestly smart to get on board or a red wave would have wiped them out.
When we want to change things like this, we have to change the norm in advance, not reactively.
BTW epidemiologists I used to work with at the CDC have long said “the big one is coming” and after Covid, many of them said “this wasn’t the big one,” so we still need to change that norm, but like climate change and a dozen other pressing crises, we can’t deal with it because fascism.
A complete inversion of reality. Democrats actively manufactured consent for the ‘end’ of the pandemic. They were pushing for a return to school before the vaccine was even out. The moment covid was their responsibility instead of a cudgel with which they could barely win the election, they started adopting the exact same language they were criticizing. Minus of course the meme shit like horse paste and bleach.
Yeah, but it didn’t affect ME back then, so I don’t care. Lots of people think like that, even on Lemmy.
He didn’t surround himself with literally zombies who only say yes to him during his first term. Them turning on him when he wanted to overrule the election results showed that. He doesn’t know how government works and thought everyone should treat him like a king from the beginning and had a rude awakening that was term 1. Now he knows and thus, utter destruction.
Project 2026. They’re going full mask off. It’s good that they are pulling this a few decades too early.
It would be if we had a little organization and some leadership to stop them, we don’t still.
This is nothing yet, and the previous wasn’t bad for lack of their trying. There is nothing to stop them this time.
Also they laid it all out in project 2025. It’s not like they tried to hide it other than trumps usual “I’ve never heard of it”. And if you believe anything that shithead says… well this is what happens
Yes, this is what drives me crazy. These fascist fuckers literally wrote down what they were going to do and then started doing exactly that. How could we have known? A mystery, for sure.
It goes back further than that.
this current arc starts with 9/11.
That was only the half season. It starts at least in 1981 (Reagan + Thatcher)
1971 Business Roundtable is the genesis of the long game to overturn liberal democracy’s gains for working people.
Disagree. This is the result of decades more bullshit from other american presidents, political figures, and 3 lettered organizations ran by ghoulish wastes of skin. There have been many famous people who have been outspoken about this shit in that time too. 9/11 and America’s batshit insane reaction to it was just more of the same dumb bullshit the rest of the world has come to expect from it’s governments and citizenry.
I posted 6 words. you somehow didn’t read half of them.
And to be honest, @Serinus@lemmy.world is probably right, since I was thinking of the broader surveillance world etc, not the current offensive by Russia against the world.
It’s funny. We’re awash in terrible things happening in and from America, but that isn’t enough for the tankies. It’s almost like they have an agenda.
We’re awash in terrible things happening in and from America, but that isn’t enough for the tankies.
not sure I follow what this means
America is doing terrible things at home and abroad, but that isn’t enough for the tankies. They need us to have always been like this.
We haven’t. This is the first time we’ve had a president that wasn’t at least trying to do the right thing by his people, no matter how misguided.
I think even Reagan fully bought into the trickle down bullshit and thought he was doing the right thing for America and Americans by paving the way for corporate oligarchy.
I think W (from his perspective at the time) justified our invasion of Iraq with both liberating the people and reducing our reliance on Israel and Saudi Arabia.
The orange tyrant doesn’t give that much of a fuck. He doesn’t need to have anything sold to him other than his own name.
This is the first time we’ve had a president that wasn’t at least trying to do the right thing by his people, no matter how misguided.
lol. lmao even.
You’re so preoccupied with your knee jerk anticommunism that you’re doing revisionist, apologist history for the Reagan administration. Was Reagan doing what he thought was the best for the people when participating in the Iran Contra affair? Come on, the US is a country that has always operated to secure its own imperialist hegemony since it became a global super power. Every single government since the start of the Cold War has operated to do that by any means necessary, even committing genocide and propping up fascist regimes worldwide.
You mean the people who kept threatening people with nukes? The people who proliferated atomic weapons giga? The ones who did 56 military interventions (old figure btw, doesn’t include Venezuela, for example) in South America post WW2? The one that proliferated military bases all across the world? The Bay of Pigs people? The ones that invaded Vietnam because they were bored? The people who made North Korea the most bombed place ever? Coup in Guatemala so that bananas were cheap? The people who would rather destroy civilization than coexist with the USSR? You’re saying that system worked relatively well? I’m saying that they were barbaric up to and through current events.
Christ, what a bootlicker.
America is doing terrible things at home and abroad, but that isn’t enough for the tankies. They need us to have always been like this.
We haven’t. This is the first time we’ve had a president that wasn’t at least trying to do the right thing by his people, no matter how misguided.
I see. I agree that Trump is different to the ones that came before (except Andrew Jackson) , and I agree that the tankies are trying to claim it’s been like this, but this kind of shit has been pretty common in US history. And so has the opposite. Sometimes administrations are tainted by the populus or take wrong turns in otherwise good administrations, but there’s usually some bullshit somewhere. Even people like FDR have things they fucked up.
Tankies stop at the system is fucked. It can’t be improved according to them, tear it down and build a new thing. Obviously that won’t happen and if we tried it would animal farm into something worse right off. And just isn’t true, the system here worked relatively well after the second world war. Never perfect, but with controls on the system and governed by mostly reason, we did make the most prosperous working class the world has every seen by a large margin. Now gone, chiseled away by the CPI having been understated for half a century averaging 2-3 percent a year just by 2008 under the new measures, while it was 5-8 percent under the old.
That was not a good faith change, it was done to steal from working people at every level and stage, and give to investors, and no one questions it even still, as the ivy league suits tell us our buying power has never been higher, when that clearly isn’t true.
Eh, that was a different, tangential thing. This arc started in 2015 when Russia figured out how to manipulate social media while absolutely no one was guarding against it.
I’d say it goes all the way back to Reagan and almost every single policy he had that weakened the absolute fuck out of average US citizens, while allowing the influence of the rich to grow to insane levels.
This all goes back to Nixon. When he resigned the Republicans decided hard line fascism is better than losing again.
Somewhere in the middle.
It was salvageable up until House and Senate leaders like Gingrich, Ryan and later O’Connell started playing identity and obstacle politics with Democrat presidents in particular. Around 2010 it really accelerated.
Based on what you’re saying
tin foil hat applied
It was accelerated by OBAMA!!!
Not Obama, just that that’s when Citizens United passed. The same thing that caused fascism in Germany, the same thing that caused fascism in Italy.
Get out of here with that logical statement! Let the people who caused it blame Obama!
I’d argue a lot of the seeds were planted with 9/11 and later 2008 finical crises that Russia would later exploit when the GOP attempted to use Obama to retcon Bush from history.
Basically what I think of Simpsons “predictions”.
Matt Groening isn’t some kind of clairvoyant. He just knows history and recognizes patterns.
Which prediction exactly? The one about the current president becoming president, their writer was interviewed about, and he said they just chose him to symbolize the US hitting rock bottom. As they were smart and informed and therefore realized the then real estate mogul was a crooked lying cheater, that lied to steal and then slandered his victims to justify it, that was in bed with organized crime. I don’t know if they knew that he was a career blackmailer, and also being blackmailed by Israel and their Epstein, and the Russians at a minimum though.
But the prediction isn’t all that clairvoyant, because in their version the president just bankrupted us and then we elected Lisa, which would be a best case scenario as Lisa is a good person. While the president’s party here will bankrupt the country, they are fixing elections, something the show didn’t see, or put in the episode.
More like the show has been running for over three decades, it would be weird if they didn’t hit a few.
I’m scared about the prediction of Britain saving America’s ass in WW3.
Oh, that’s wrong. Nobody is gonna come save America.
The UK is one of the original Axis III powers. They are beating the US to the punch in some respects.
Okay, what happened now?
