Democrats spent years neglecting State and County elections to focus their main attention on flashy National races that could bring in big donors. Coupled with how Democrats with name recognition like to park their asses in Congress until they’re frail and elderly, never making way for the next generation, there’s just not a deep pool of talent to draw on for the Presidency.
AOC is the candidate I see available who would be the best suited for the actual White House but I have doubts she could win the Primary or the General. Gavin might be electable but his problems are deep enough they might discourage folks Left of Center from backing him and I really wouldn’t want him in the White House anyways. Mark Kelly is getting his name tossed around. I don’t know enough about him to know how I’d feel about electing him. He might be electable though. He’s getting National name recognition with his battle against Hegseth. He’s a moderate and a military veteran with appeal among Independents. He doesn’t seem to have any real controversies and he’s new enough to politics to not have alot of baggage or strong negative opinions attached to him (though that could change in 3 years). JB Pritzker being a billionaire would hurt him among Leftists but he could win both the Primaries and General I think. His wealth could help him rally support from both the Upper Classes and Democratic party insiders. His relative lack of controversy or strong negative opinions about him would help him in the General as would his growing name recognition on the National stage. Plus he’s isn’t afraid to go for the political jugular when he needs too. Personally don’t want a Billionaire as president but I would prefer him over Newsom. And Kamala is a joke. She’ll have even less support this time then last time. If super delegates start to rally around her, you’ll know for a fact she’s the controlled opposition candidate.
Fuck Harris. I’d vote for a blue Smurf than her. Gimme something you retarded Dems!
Regurgitating failed policy and ideas is all they got.
I hate to tell you, but a hardcore progressive will not be nominated. As they always do, the party leadership will decide that the way to beat MAGA is to be MAGA.
Stop obsessing over the presidency. You want revolution? All politics is local. Start by putting younger progressives on planning commissions, school boards. Move up to city councils, county supervisor. Then start taking state offices. You have to elect progressives to local offices for name recognition.
Polls are not the mechanism parties use to “pick” candidates. That’s just not how the process works. Pollsters aren’t arms of the DNC or the RNC. They’re independent firms measuring name recognition and voter preference at a given moment, and the only way to do that is by giving respondents a fixed list of relevant, high visibility figures. It’s a methodological constraint, not a political command.
The real issue is subtler. Media ecosystems amplify a handful of names, donors flock to whoever looks viable, and voters often gravitate toward whoever they’ve heard of. That creates a feedback loop where the visible become even more visible. But polls are downstream from that loop, not upstream. They reflect the landscape; they don’t choose it.
If you want to critique the system, aim at the actual gatekeepers. Ballot access rules, debate thresholds, fundraising networks, and media exposure do far more to narrow the field than a Rasmussen questionnaire ever will. Blaming the poll is mistaking the thermometer for the weather.
Those same ‘independent firms’ do manipulate data for the parties. This was a poll from 2016, the only way they could show Hillary beating Bernie is if they only polled her demographic. And any voter not looking at the methodology would be convinced that Hillary was truly beating Bernie and in turn vote for her.
Can we not pick another boomer for president? I’m very much done with that whole generation.
I don’t think we should vote for anyone who’s gonna be over 65 when their term ends.
Don’t worry because as we know Kamala is brat
Harris needs to retire. You don’t lose to Trump and get to run again.
Just watch them put in Hillary for round two
She honestly feels like she deserves the presidency. The Clintons were pissed when people they knew supported Obama over Hilary because Obama was relatively new to politics and Hilary had “paid her dues”. That those people genuinely believed Obama was the better candidate did not matter at all to them. Most Democrats view elected office as a career rather than a calling.
She just needs one more try and she’ll surely win
the house limit is TWO do-overs.
She’s actually a two time loser already because of the primaries. Not everyone is allowed to fail 3 times like Beto O’Rourke.
Why did they leave out RO KHANNA?
There is no way they run her again fuck they can’t actually be that inept. If they do it again I will genuinely take it as evidence that their goal is to lose.
Ha, you know they are. But not inept, you see their mission isn’t to win, it’s to prevent popular reformists from getting control of the party. Keeping control of the party in their corporate donor connected club. But the factions within the establishment that want her will be drown out by Newsome, and they figure it’s his “turn,” since he waited patiently and did not challenge Kamala when her guarenteed loss was ratified by them all.
As if republicans weren’t planning on cheating and a milquetoast status quo campaign could overcome it, as if 2020 was an outlier, where the stealing was punished and discouraged from future attempts, and every elected official’s faith in being backed up doing the right thing and honoring their duty and defying the gangster king was affirmed after they distributed justice following 2020. As if.
Newsome is guarenteed loss, unless he embraces popular reform in a new aggressive persona, and he was chosen to not be that, they all were. That is the one requisite for higher office for the donors, being weak and not liable to upsetting the license the rich have stolen.
Please tell me this isn’t real, they aren’t polling already, with Harris out in front?
We learned nothing. I know the establishment learned nothing, they are as arrogant in passing the buck onto voters for their bad status quo candidates. Because she’s a minority woman it’s ok they lost, because everyone’s a racist sexist. Is the subtext.
Of course she was widely hated, including by woman and blacks, and lost ground with all groups. But the establishment taught the sheep to bleet that part, and they are repeating it in loud chorus, bleeting at anyone wanting a change of strategy, saying it’s them to blaaaaaaa me for not believing hard enough.
It’s way too early to even be thinking about this, but Harris is out. Newsome is out, for not throwing his hat in the ring in 2024 when we needed someone that could win, and he could with a little populist platforming. Hell Harris could’ve won, if she attacked some groups cheating us and forcefully and convincingly told us she would fix healthcare and drugs.
We cannot even have that though. The rich won’t allow us what every other country in the developed world gets, even as the only alternative is guarenteed death of the republic permanent dictatorship of the worst people in the world fully intent on putting people into concentration camps if they get support to do it.
Lol wtf is Harris doing here?
Representing the planned opposition that is nearly the entirety of the Democratic party.
No she has to loose to Trump again. It’s the only way to be sure. Never be different, let’s just try it again
Let’s get Clinton back. It’s her turn!
Gross
We forgetting something? Doesn’t matter who the Dems shove out there, Trump can’t run again.
Should I draft up a list of all of the Amendments of the US Constitution that have been ignored over the past 13 months?
Don’t concede any ground. There’s no need to make it any easier on them.
Saying that he may (probably will) illegally run is not conceding ground. It’s preparing for the future. If you nievely assume he’s just going to follow the law then you will be unprepared for when he doesn’t.
Old man time will veto it, there will be a succession sooner or later, that is our shot to take it back in the infighting if we can get a real candidate, a popular aggressive one because they will be cheating every way they can, which is a lot.
You’re right. Acting like him trying for 3rd term is an inevitability is how his dumb fuck ideas get normalized.
At this point I can only conclude that the dnc want a third trump. Though, I guess that tracks, they can continue plundering and getting aipac money and doing fuck all while saying ‘eeeehhhhh we’re soooooo powerless what are we suppppoooosedddd to dooooo!?’
Dems may as well run Satan, at least he has a chance to win unlike harris.
People are irredeemable idiots if AOC is that low. Shapiro is literally IDF. Newsom and Harris are pro genocide. Booker is another pro genocide traitor
AOC is 36. The last 23 presidents were all at least 42 (and that was Theodore Roosevelt: 1901-1909). I don’t see her winning, due to her being as young as she is. Maybe next run or the one after that.
Wish she would be more popular than she is.
Billionaires have paid a lot of money to control the narrative on her
Please don’t run Harris again.
They will, then blame everyone else again when she loses
Accuse them all of bigotry. As if that would justify it. We nominated a minority we knew couldn’t win but it’s ok because the voters are bigoted therefore it’s justified throwing the election.
The voters are rejecting these candidates for their own qualities, I’m just saying if it was bigotry it wouldn’t justify them nominating a doomed to fail candidate in the slightest, and in no way should enable them to stay in power in the party to force another one on us. As super delegates remain in the party.
She will get destroyed in the primaries. She has zero chance of winning once people are paying attention. These results in the tweet are meaningless because unless you’re a politics Andy like you and I you have no idea who any of these people are besides Harris. Honestly, I hope she runs. She’ll split the vote with other corporate owned Democrats like Newsom.
Realistically, all the corpo owned dems will consolidate power behind their frontrunner and drop out if there is a genuine chance of an outsider winning. No?
They will. And they’ll try to run a spoiler progressive candidate like Elizabeth Warren was in 2020. But they’ll still lose.
Looking forward to seeing it happen. :)
Hillary 2028
Hilary/Cheney 2028, we heard your issues and complaints so we removed everything that could possibly be considered left
Dont you put that evil on us Ricky Bobby!
AOC is the only viable option.
The only options for candidates aren’t on this poll. This is a dumbass poll to begin with, listing harris at all. As if these were our choices. None of these people can reliably win with the republicans cheating as they are.
AOC is 36. The last 23 presidents were all at least 42 (and that was Theodore Roosevelt: 1901-1909). I don’t see her winning, due to her being as young as she is. Maybe next run or the one after that.
Wish she would be more popular than she is.
After the last two doddering geriatrics I wouldn’t be surprised if the pendulum swings in the opposite direction.
Shes a party sheepdog
I have many criticisms of AOC but if we’re talking about electoral politics I literally can’t point to anyone with a known name that could be better on policy and actually win.
I would love other names though if you have suggestions.
Which party?
The corp Dems don’t like her. Which should tell you she is actually doing right.
Their controlled opposition is internal too.
AOC ain’t winning. It would be nice though.
AOC is literally the only person on that list that even has a shot of winning in the general. Half those people are genocide supporters. If you think AOC has no shot at winning then you haven’t been paying attention to the massive left shift happening in this country.
That shift isn’t even mainly happening among the loyal Democrat voters either. It’s happening among independent and non cult Republican voters.
Woke 2.0 is spreading. The main opposition to leftist momentum in this country is literally the Democratic party. If it runs anyone to the right of AOC it will lose to the couch again.
The main opposition to leftist momentum in this country is literally the Democratic party.
And has been since 2008. Democrats don’t want to win if that means stepping left.
They don’t like her. They wouldnt support mamdani.
We need to get rid of the corrupt Dems. AOC is the right choice to help do that.
They don’t like her. They wouldnt support mamdani.
Didn’t stop Mamdani. Wont stop us. Just need to understand youre not running one of their campaigns. We can’t use their approaches and shouldn’t evaluate ourselves by their metrics.
They didn’t support Mamdani, until he won anyway. Then they ALL showed up at his inauguration, and acted like they were behind him all along.
I’m pretty sure the corp Dems still do not support mamdani
What are the chances of the right having a scism and spoiling their own ballot (split MAGA and GOP)? If that were to look likely that would be the best time to have an independent progressive run. Would spoil the dems ballot too, but so long as we are stuck in the cycle of “I dont care who wins, so long as they lose” system, I dont see any way to break out of the two-party gridlock.
Ro Khanna needs to run on legitimizing the Epstein investigation, bolstering checks and balances and prosecuting the grifters.
Affordability and healthcare would also be a given with him.
That’s what I’d focus on first term, staying tight and consistent on messaging like Zohran.
Ro Khanna is mid af
As compared to who?
Actual progressive candidates?
Where are those? If any of them are running in the primary against Ro, they have my vote.
IF this is the slate, Democrats have already lost.
AOC might be able to do it. She’d need to start now, and its going to need to be a people powered campaign. They work fundamentally differently than corporate donation powered campaigns. Any other form of candidate or campaign will be to submit to fascism entirely.
Advocating for any of the other names is about as much as advocating for Republicans directly. They wont win.
Some alternatives:
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Ro Khanna
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Graham Platner (he’d be have been only been in the senate for 2yrs, but he’s got the potential)
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Chris Van Hollen
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Abdul El-Sayed
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Dean Phillips
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John Conyers
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Jon Stewart
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Shri Thanedar
The next president will be both M4A and Abolish ICE or they’ll be a Republican.
Jon Stewart might be both capable and electable but you’d have to talk the DNC into it which would be a tough sell and you’d have to talk Jon Stewart into it which would be a tougher sell.
but you’d have to talk the DNC into it
I don’t think they could stop Jon Stewart. Not even close. And the lesson on why they can’t stop him is something ANY progressive looking to challenge to the DNC would need to keep in mind. The DNC seems to only be able to shut down threats from within the DNC. Jon would be operating outside of their power structure.
Didn’t stop them from side lining Bernie. He was the most popular presidential candidate for two elections in a row and didn’t appear on the Ballot either time.
Didn’t stop them from side lining Bernie. He was the most popular presidential candidate for two elections in a row and didn’t appear on the Ballot either time.
Still fucking hurts. We didn’t have to experience ANYTHING like we have in the previous 10 years. It was literally all optional and the DNC chose to expose us to this.
AOC has started. I just donated to her last week.
Consider planning ahead to campaign/ volunteer for them. Also, plan the uncomfortable work of converting your friends, family, strange cousins, neighbors, people at the bus stop, everyone you can to vote for AOC.
Donations are great and important, but at the end of the day, its people power that wins elections. Actual humans contacting other humans they know and explaining why they should support the candidate.
There is another one that would be even better, than Jon, whom can win. I fear he’s too accomodating, too trusting, of the establishment however. I think Jon lacks the cut throat desire to build and run a political machine that can dominate politics. I think I know someone that can though.
So who is it you think would outperform Stewart?
I don’t want to say as of yet. Stewart could win though, at least legitimately, I don’t know if he would let the republicans just take it from him, that’s partly on us too, we have to make it so they can’t just steal it anyway.
So you think you know someone even more capable of winning than Stewart, but you want to keep it a secret?
Yes. Presidential announcements are fragile affairs, candidates are attacked early, and for other reasons, it’s bad luck to jump the gun, not the least before that person is planning on running.
Not as dumb as nominating hillary, biden, then kamala I would argue.
And only assholes post moving pictures in response, have a little respect for yourself. I also point to your moving picture in your name. You should be ashamed of yourself do better.
Agree with your message, but keep in mind that 2028 is in 3 years, no one is running at this moment or declared they will be running.
This is corporate media just setting candidates for us.
This is corporate media just setting candidates for us.
I agree with this evaluation.
but keep in mind that 2028 is in 3 years, no one is running at this moment or declared
I’m aware and I think this is already a strategic mis-step. They needed to begin campaigning the day that Trump won. This is how Mamdani won. Its how Bernie came within a hogs breath of toppling the Clinton dynasty from within their own party. They didn’t wait, they went to work. People powered campaigns operate in a fundamentally different manner and need more time to get going. However, they have the advantage that they exponentiate in how they scale. While they simultaneously take longer to get going, they’re practically impossible to stop once they do. If Bernie had even one more month, maybe two more months to campaign in the run up to the 2016 primary, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Right now no progressive/ grass-roots populist has thrown their had in the ring and I think this is a mistake.
Dean Phillips needs to be forgotten. I’m from his state, I know and have run a business for one of his closest friends; these are NOT people who should have power over anyone. Beyond being HUGE supporters of the Palestinian genocide, their interest is in money. That’s it. Dean Phillips is shallow, stupid, and vain. Nice of him to call out Biden, but I cannot fathom how he is on any kind of list for the actual President. I guess because he’s not known in other places? People in Minnesota do not take him seriously, there are reasons for that - we know him.
I like John Stewart way too much to ever want him to be a politician.
I would sacrifice Jon’s pleasure for the sake of the country. He’s a good person and believe in him. If he announced, everyone who knows up from down wouldn’t bother competing, outside of the Democratic primary where people might try to move him in some positions. But it would be a fools errand and a waste of political capitol to try and beat them, for either Republicans or Democrats.
I had this perspective until I started watching him again recently. I know my politics have moved left since I grew up listening to him. But he’s stood still. It’s kind of painful to watch how much he loses the forest for the trees on every single issue. Feels like he’s a gatekeeper at this point. Basically keeping a large portion of millennials from being moved further left.
He’d be the best president in my lifetime if he won. But, that bar is in the dirt.
Ehhh… Not every single issue. He’s always trying to do the right thing, and sometimes he lets his biases creep in (like his work with first responders coloring how he views the police in general).
But I think it’s clear that his heart is always in the right place, and he’s always interested in discussing things with people who know what they’re talking about to get to the truth, even if that truth isn’t what he originally thought it may have been.
And yeah, that would be better than anything else we’ve ever had. Obama tried to portray himself as being this way, but it was mostly just advertising. Jon is the real deal.
Stewart would not run, and perhaps for the best. Whoever holds that position will have to be disappointing in some regards due to reality, and Stewart may be better only soeaking to the aspects he excels at without owning the stuff that would tarnish his image and legacy.
I think it would be hard to talk Stewart into running but only because an election and presidency would be so draining for him.
Not with that attitude. Stewart will run if we need him, and we might.
Stewart would not run,
Stewart might run. They’re closer to running than they’ve ever been before.
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